FACT: Greg Watkins Is An Abuser

Greg Watkins has proven once again that he is nothing more than a cowardly abuser, shill and low life degenerate with his latest rants and lies that even the devil himself would be proud of.

His claims to 'helping' abuse victims is somewhat questionable as there is not one piece or even a slither of solitary evidence to support this. However, there is a vast amount of evidence that he is an abuser which is available on his own cesspit bog.

His latest claim that he and his 'friend' were having a good old laugh for fifteen minutes regarding Matt Quinn's latest posting. One can only assume that Watkins 'friend' is non other than the 'Scarlet PIMPernel' himself rearing his vicious vindictive head once again. You don't need a degree to figure out why these two bitter and twisted abusers are 'friends' and why Hollie Greig never got the justice she so rightly deserves.

Instead, Watkins gets his cheap nasty thrills abusing victims and takes great pleasure in doing so and then claims he has helped many victims and anyone wishing to publicize their story only need to contact him and he will be quite happy to tell the world and post it on his bog, where he can then dissect, manipulate, abuse and discriminate with total disregard and without a shred of moral decency against the victim. This is how he helps victims.

Watkins, a convicted criminal and who downloads porn also claims to be a victim of abuse when he was a child. There is no such evidence of this and yet he expects the people he insults and abuses to believe him. Ironic. Don't you think? Where is your documented evidence Mr. Watkins? Have we just to take his word for it without physical, forensic, medical, contemporary or corroborated evidence while he continues to slander and abuse Hollie all over again?!

As he tries to encourage victims to his bog, please be aware that any contact you have with this devil spawn will be published along with personal details, your address, telephone number, email address, what you had for dinner last night, how much you pay for your weekly shop, right down to the last time you changed your bed sheets. He doesn't care that you are a victim. He has no interest in what you have suffered. He cares little about the trauma and continued battles you have daily and he will not hesitate in turning you from being a victim into an abuser, instead of a survivor.

We can clearly see he takes great pleasure and goes to great lengths to mock and ridicule victims. All the evidence is on his bog. It is also clear and an established fact that he is a convicted criminal, a proven liar, shill and is indeed the dirty old man standing on street corners flashing to anyone who happens to glance his way. He trolls the Internet looking for his next victim(s) just to get is days worth of jollies and then laugh and snicker along with his bum chum. A paedophile ring in the making.


If you want the true facts on Watkins then please do visit:

Greg Lance-Watkins......The man who duped Robert Green.

There you will find all the established facts and information to guard yourself against Watkins the abuser.

God bless victims, survivors & supporters in the fight against child abuse.

The GLW 12 Days of Christmas

On the first day of Christmas Watkins made a plea

Supporting the cause of Hollie G.

On the second day of Christmas Watkins dealt some facts

Two reliable witness's

And supporting the cause of Hollie G.

On the third day of Christmas Watkins wrote with glee

3 demonstrations

2 reliable witness's

And supporting the cause of Hollie G.

On the fourth day of Christmas Watkins took the strop

4 temper tantrums

3 demonstrations

2 reliable witness's

And supporting the cause of Hollie G.

On the fifth day of Christmas Watkins got the chop

5 outed trolls

4 temper tantrums

3 demonstrations

2 reliable witness's

And supporting the cause of Hollie G.

On the sixth day of Christmas Watkins mask had dropped

6 blatant lies

5 outed trolls

4 temper tantrums

3 demonstrations

2 reliable witness's

And supporting the cause of Hollie G.

On the seventh day of Christmas Watkins let it rip

7 victims insulted

6 blatant lies

5 outed trolls

4 temper tantrums

3 demonstrations

2 reliable witness's

And supporting the cause of Hollie G.

On the eighth day of Christmas Watkins claims he's been duped

8 written retractions

7 victims insulted

6 blatant lies

5 outed trolls

4 temper tantrums

3 demonstrations

2 reliable witness's

And supporting the cause of Hollie G.

On the ninth day of Christmas Watkins lost the plot

9 cases of defamation

8 written retractions

7 victims insulted

6 blatant lies

5 outed trolls

4 temper tantrums

3 demonstrations

2 reliable witness's

And supporting the cause of Hollie G.

On the tenth day of Christmas Watkins is on his knees

10 reliable sources

9 cases of defamation

8 written retractions

7 victims insulted

6 blatant lies

5 outed trolls

4 temper tantrums

3 demonstrations

2 reliable witness's

And supporting the cause of Hollie G.

On the eleventh day of Christmas Watkins sinks so low

11 supporters degraded

10 reliable sources

9 cases of defamation

8 written retractions

7 victims insulted

6 blatant lies

5 outed trolls

4 temper tantrums

3 demonstrations

2 reliable witness's

And supporting the cause of Hollie G.

On the twelfth day of Christmas Watkins pays his dues

12 years in prison

11 supporters degraded

10 reliable sources

9 cases of defamation

8 written retractions

7 victims insulted

6 blatant lies

5 outed trolls

4 temper tantrums

3 demonstrations

2 reliable witness's

And supporting the cause of Hollie G.

Merry Christmas.

Watkins The Class Room Dunce

Greg Lance-Watkins has finally revealed to all the extent of his education which has always been questionable and his latest barrage of insults and trying to undermine Hollie Greig's NVQ achievement sends him to the bottom of the class.


He has also revealed his lack of knowledge and understanding as to how the education system works, rendering his latest rant into another heap of bullshit that he spews with venom and utter hatred. (for a more accurate explanation of the system in Scotland, please read The Can of Worms latest post)


What is even more bizarre is his daily onslaught of insults aimed at Hollie's supporters with his vile derogatory repetitive attacks, his accusations against them including: "Self serving, dishonest, underhand, abusers, liars and crooks without ethics, morality, integrity or principles. Serial bullies and cowards dealing in lies" - GLW. - which is ironic as he goes on to defend his partner in crime Tom George, the scarlet pimpernel himself who has shown himself to be self serving, dishonest, underhanded, abuser, liar and crook without ethics, morality, integrity or principles, a serial bully and coward just like GLW himself.


Watkins has stated about Tom George that: "I pretty soon caught on he was in fact Mark Leask........" a blatant lie. Watkins has no information on Tom George and never has, he has no knowledge of what George claims that his own case is the biggest cover up story in Scottish history, without having a shred of evidence to back it up but he will try to convince those who will listen for all of five minutes and at the same time calls Anne Greig a liar. Mr George case is neither complex or a cover up, he refuses the help and then cries wolf. Pitiful. He is nothing more than a saboteur, bitter to the core and tried to use Hollie Greig's case to his own advantage.

Watkins has also lied about his use of the Zemanta app regarding an image he used against the so called lynch mob and Mr. Gabe Nelson. It was suggested this image was a direct threat to Mr. Nelson which of course Watkins denied and tried to explain Zemanta automatically inserts an image into an article which unsurprisingly is another blatant lie.

The Zemanta app will give suggested images depending on what an article is about. It does not auto insert the image, the image has to be selected for input. On completion of running a short test on the app which took all of five minutes, inputting 'lynch mob' the app gives up to forty images of people hanging from trees including the image Watkins used of the woman known as 'Laura Nelson'. If this was not a direct threat to Mr.Nelson then why use such an image to give that impression when there were other images readily available?

Continuing with the lies of Watkins, he is now stating that Miss Greig's mental age is somewhere in the region of a 4-6yr old after writing for months that it was more likely to be in the region of a 3yr old. The evidence is there for all to read on his gutter trash blog. Even more recently he now claims that "No one can say Hollie has Never been abused......" ?

He will tell you that all information he has provided on his blog was approved by Miss Greig, which is an astonishing claim to make considering he believes her mental age to be that of a 3yr old and that he had many conversation with her over the telephone, but also claims that she is unable to talk and communicate.

Well as it turns out Miss Greig can do more than communicate and earned herself a respectable NVQ, an achievement for someone who has down syndrome and Watkins degrades and undermines this by stating that: "NVQ's do not exist in Scotland" and that it "aligns her with axe murderers, rapists, and the educationally challenged who also get a vote! " What utter claptrap and shows Watkins education as non existant.

He also dismisses the fact that compensation is paid to victims because although there is not enough evidence for a conviction, it signifies abuse has occured. He also dismisses the police who have stated they believe Miss Greig was abused.

Munchausen by proxy syndrome (MBPS) is a relatively uncommon condition that involves the exaggeration or fabrication of illnesses or symptoms by a primary caretaker, deliberately makes another person (most often his or her own preschool child) sick or convinces others that the person is sick. The parent or caregiver misleads others into thinking that the child has medical problems. According to experts, common conditions and symptoms that are created or faked by parents or caregivers with MBPS include: failure to thrive, allergies, asthma, vomiting, diarrhea, seizures, and infections.

Considering that Miss Greig has down syndrome which is not a sickness but a condition, Watkins attack on Anne Greig insisting she suffers from MBPS, which was suggested to him by none other than his partner in crime, are indeed invalid and without foundation as Miss Greig shows no evidence of the above symptoms.

One final note about Watkins claims and so called explanation as to why he discontinued supporting the campaign: "Anne & Robert had clearly and frequently lied about material matters and had defamed me on a regular basis behind my back I ceased managing this web site FOR them." Anyone following this case are well aware that Anne Greig removed him from the campaign when Watkins himself began to throw insults and abuse aimed at Anne and her daughter.

"This site is not interested in 'Producing a Result' other than by presentation and debate of the so called evidence as provided to the public domain, primarily by Anne Greig, and discussion thereof to establish the TRUTH based upon FACTS to establish not only Justice but the clear British concept that 'Justice Must Be Seen To Be Done". GLW - Stolen Kids blogspot.

The only debate Watkins is interested in is his own unfounded opinions and abuse as his blog is closed to comments and so no debate or discussion is possible. This action shows what a coward and low life Watkins really is.

Regurgitated Stolen Rants

The every day regurgitated postings of Greg Lance-Watkins is becoming somewhat mundane and tiresome but it shows that he has nothing new to write and so the constant repetitive rants is all he can muster.


Again he is asking for evidence from a supporter on YouTube and attacks this innocent person with abusive comments and put downs. As 'Justice' has stated before, supporters are not privy to such evidence and his harassment and abusive manner are now at their peak and no-one escapes the malicious vindictive opinions of self acclaimed master of bullshit.


If Watkins is determined to see the evidence then maybe he should be asking Anne Greig and Robert Green to provide it, but then, cowards don't go straight to the source and his main agenda is merely to discredit supporters and beat them down and is an underhanded tactic to gain information to give him something new to write.


As it stands, Watkins has no information or evidence and uses FaceBook supporters comments to fill his nasty blog with because he can't come up with anything new. When reading his postings you just have to scan it over, there is nothing new there, all predictable rantings of a desperate mad man scrapping at the bottom of the barrel for mere scraps you would throw to a mangy dog barking up the wrong tree.

The repetitive insults and accusations are just about laughable and one has to remember that Watkins has never met any supporter or HG herself to validate his accusations. Undermining every supporter and labelling them the 'lynch mob' and the 'braying mob' where there is no evidence of this and the derogatory insults are used at every opportunity as is his running commentary on certain individuals that he has no knowledge of and so his rantings are based on his opinions and assumptions and with "no admissible substantive evidence". Watkins fails in the intellect department which obviously originates from the very depth of a toilet bowl.

Perhaps a slot on the children's program Jackanory would be more suited to Watkins with his childish rantings and a knack for 'story' telling rather than the grown up world of adults where he fails to get his ten minutes of fame.

Word Manipulation Designed To Intimidate

Word manipulation designed to intimidate and undermine someone is a tactic used on a regular basis by Greg Lance-Watkins used in the hope of overpowering anyone who does not agree with his opinion or agenda.

The tactics of deceit, manipulation and control are a steady diet for covert-aggressive personality, it's the only way Watkins can deal with others in a situation he has no control over. His everyday over usage of exaggerated words is to simply distract, confuse and intimidate you into thinking that he is highly intellectual.

One can only assume that a thesaurus is being used as he searches for words that are manipulative, intimidating but infrequently used in every day language but they fall short of their task as his spelling and grammar are on the level of a 10yr old and yet he berates anyone who dares make the same mistake which is highly hypocritical and laughable considering that Blogger has a spellchecker which he fails to use.

Watkins aggression was not obvious in the beginning and seemed genuinely supportive of HG until he decided that there was no admissible evidence based on his opinion and became a doctor overnight to diagnose Anne Greig with Munchhausen by proxy and with severe mental health issues. Your gut may tell you that he's fighting for something as he struggles to overcome supporters of HG and gain power, to have his way, and you find yourselves unconsciously on the defensive. But because he can't point to clear, objective evidence he is aggressing against you.

The tactics he uses, insults, personal attacks, verbal abuse, slander, mocking are merely ploys to intimidate, manipulate and overpower you into submission making them highly effective psychological weapons to which anyone can be vulnerable. When engaging in this tactic, he actively ignores the warnings, pleas or wishes of others, and in general, refuses to pay attention to everything and anything that might distract him. He's an expert at knowing how to change the subject, dodge the issue or in some way throws a curve. It's merely a distraction and a diversion technique to keep the focus off his behavior, move you off-track, and keep himself free to promote his self-serving hidden agendas.

Watkins technique of using sarcasm and put-downs as a means of increasing fear and self-doubt in others is an every day occurrence and has become an obsession. Covert-aggressor's use this tactic to make others feel inadequate or unworthy, and therefore, defer to them. It's an effective way to foster a continued sense of personal inadequacy in the weaker party, thereby allowing an aggressor to maintain a position of dominance.

Vilifying the victim is another tactic he frequently uses in conjunction with the tactic of playing the victim role. He tried to use this tactic to make it appear he is only responding (i.e. defending himself against) aggression on the part of the victim to gain sympathy and evoke compassion. One thing that covert-aggressive personalities count on is the fact that less calloused and less hostile personalities usually can't stand to see anyone suffering. Therefore, the tactic is simple. Convince your victim you're suffering in some way, and they'll try to relieve your distress. But on this occasion, this tactic backfired.

All this adds up to is a feeble attempt to discredit and create chaos, divide HG supporters causing suspicion and deliberate anarchy, another well known tactic of a shill. For all his outlandish comments and accusations that supporters are abusers, paedophiles and liars, it is Watkins himself who has a criminal record for firearms possession and an abuser of the highest standard. He has proven time and time again to be the liar and the instigator who thinks nothing of betraying anyone he comes into contact with and uses for his own selfish means and sick fantasies.

Watkins is nothing more than a school yard bully throwing a tantrum, albeit his behaviour is escalating due to the fact that he realises the people he is attacking are much stronger, more capable than he bargained for and regardless of what he throws at them they band together and unite which riles him further as he is fully aware that he has no such support, bar a possible two individuals that are just as untrustworthy, mentally or psychologically impaired as he is.

At the end of the day Watkins is grasping at straws which is clearly evident in the past few weeks which saw him stooping to the lowest level possible. As his accusations escalate and become more bizarre, it will be interesting to see what his next tactic or his next victim, will be.

The Shill List Working Against Supporters

There are certain individuals who would have you believe that the vast majority of people do not believe the 'stories' of HG childhood abuse and that the people who support this cause are nothing more than abusers, paedophiles and liars.

We are all entitled to our own opinion, we have the right to express that opinion regardless if one disagrees.

Justice decided to compile a list of people actively and deliberately working against HG and her supporters, these people are also known as 'shills' that set out to discriminate, slander and verbally attack in the hope to cause disarray and doubt. After spending five hours going through files and online searching, there is now a complete list of active shills.


GREG LANCE-WATKINS - No surprises here then. His daily onslaught of abuse is wearing rather thin these days with his constant drone dalek like fashion. In desperate attempts to discredit everyone, he has resorted to trawling the internet looking for anyone that says anything positive and uses it to fill his blog with more droning and drivel. These ghastly attempts to keep this charade going are becoming more bizarre every day and more laughable than threatening. Watkins is entitled to disbelieve, but why set out to discredit and attack those who choose to believe? Is it merely for the fact that Anne Greig kicked him off the case and he went into a strop? Or is it because he really was a low life to begin with and has proven to be a liar time and time again making himself look foolish and desperate?

Watkins proved to be nothing more than a liar and hypocrite when his attempt to discredit individuals and accuse them of breaking confidentiality when he thinks nothing of doing so himself by publishing names without authorization of the people who were in his 'circle' and by all accounts there are only two. The publishing of emails which he edits to see fit is also a breach of confidentiality, unless the author of said emails gives permission to publish and unedited. He was also solely responsible for publishing the names of the paedophile ring and the victims but he claims it was at the insistence of Robert Green and Anne Greig. If Watkins had serious doubt about publishing the list then he should have refused to do so. But he made the choice and went ahead and breached confidentiality.


TOM GEORGE - Not so much as a shill online but recent offline activity revealed his behaviour and ongoing attempts to discredit the campaign. After stepping away in June, he would have you believe he wanted nothing more to do with it and would make no further comments. The last two weeks have shown this not to be true as he turns up like the proverbial bad penny. For all his pleading innocence it would seem, like Watkins, his name pops up whenever trouble rears its ugly head.

It would also seem he has more names than the seven dwarfs, and yet Watkins defends him for doing so and at the same time berates someone else for using a fake ID.

Tom George also thinks nothing of passing emails to others in his 'circle', edited and watered down versions like Watkins, breaching confidentiality. Again, pot.....kettle......black spring to mind. He may have been a victim of an attack about twenty years ago, which by all accounts left him severely brain damaged according to Watkins. If this was the case, then why was he involved in such a sensitive case that required intellect and trust? Did he fool Robert Green and Anne Greig that he was the man for the job which entailed writing to authorities and MP's demanding a new enquiry into Hollie's abuse. Or was he using Hollie's case in the hope to highlight his own failing one?

Watkins and George are like two peas in a pod and their sole intention is to undermine Hollie Greig, Anne Greig, Robert Green and supporters. One has to wonder if in fact Hollie never got a new enquiry because of their involvement given their track record of failure.


As you can see, this is the entire list of shills which is laughable when Watkins will inform anyone who will dare to listen to him that there is an endless list of people actively involved in discrediting the campaign. Granted, there may be many who do not believe which is their right but the amount of people who do believe overshadows this.

Justice's conclusion is that Watkins resides in a bubble filled with hot air and nothing much else. His intellect is zero minus, his credibility non existent and his track record for lying is notorious.

If these two are all HG and supporters have to worry about, then they can sleep easy.

As always, Justice gives you the opportunity to add anything of value and importance to this article. If you have evidence of shills you can leave them in the comment box.

The Weakest Link Greg Lance-Watkins

Quote: No one can say Hollie has Never been abused - Greg Lance-Watkins
23rd October 2010

Incredible as it seems the above quote was indeed made by Watkins today on his blog where he also claims to be the 'Messenger' when clearly Anne Greig quite rightly removed him from the case. So who exactly is he delivering the message for?

Once again Watkins finds the need to copy and paste a comment from YouTube from someone showing a little support and dissects it in his usual abusive manner with his opinions and slanderous remarks and insults.

Quote: To have been named as a paedophile without one shred of evidence of even a possibility of that which is sustainable is an obscene crime to be accused of. - Greg Lance-Watkins.

Pot.... kettle...... black spring to mind in this instance as he publicly accuses HG supporters of being paedophiles, abusers, liars, slime, stupid and the list goes on without any evidence to back up his claims and without having any contact with most of the people he accuses and so it is only his opinion and does not validate his claims.

His continual abuse against the HG supporters is nothing more than a personal vendetta, often refering to them as the 'lynch mob'. There is no evidence to support this claim in the slightest. If Watkins is refering to the angry outbursts due to his slanderous insults and deliberate goading on a daily basis, then I think the correct definition of their actions would be 'self defence'.

If this lynch mob were that hateful then maybe Watkins would like to explain why that whenever he decides to attack another individual for merely clicking a 'like' button and calling them an abuser for doing so, that many people will come to that individuals side to support them, show solidarity and defend them yet not on any occassion has one person come to the aide of Watkins in his defence.

In his daily rants on Stolen Kids which is becoming more bizzare by the day, he demands supporters to show the evidence to justify their support for HG. As they are a support group, they would not be privvy to such information as Watkins is well aware. If indeed Robert Green and Anne Greig have further evidence, it is hardly likely they would put this in the public domain and run the risk of jeopardizing the possibility of a new enquiry.


As Watkins fails to understand the support HG has, it shows his lack of human compassion. It would be safe to say that the half of these people are infact victims and survivors of abuse and have first hand experience and knowledge as to how the system can be used and twisted to cover up crimes and protect paedophiles. They also know that medical evidence is not always sufficient or available. Medical evidence alone does not make a case, if this were true then victims who disclose abuse in later years and decide to bring criminal charges against their abuser would have no medical evidence to support this. However, statistics show that over the years many cases have been won without medical evidence. They are also aware that compensation is awarded to victims even without an arrest or conviction against their abuser. This would indicate that although there is not sufficient evidence for an arrest, it does not suggest that abuse did not occur, it signals that indeed abuse has taken place but the evidence is lacking for a conviction which is often the outcome in many cases and so compensation is awarded.

Supporters can empathise with HG and Anne Greig because they have experienced if not the same treatment but very close to it. There are supporters who know someone that has been abused and have witnessed the effects victims suffer and there are those who support merely for the fact that paedophiles are committing horrendous abuse but are protected by the system when this protection is very much lacking for the victim.

Supporters do not have to justify their beliefs and reasons to Greg Lance-Watkins it is not a legal requirement to disclose such justification and Watkins certainly doesn't have any authority in demanding evidence to validate their support for HG.


There is only one reason they show support, they believe Hollie Greig.

NEXT POST: The shocking shill list working against HG and supporters.