Regurgitated Stolen Rants

The every day regurgitated postings of Greg Lance-Watkins is becoming somewhat mundane and tiresome but it shows that he has nothing new to write and so the constant repetitive rants is all he can muster.


Again he is asking for evidence from a supporter on YouTube and attacks this innocent person with abusive comments and put downs. As 'Justice' has stated before, supporters are not privy to such evidence and his harassment and abusive manner are now at their peak and no-one escapes the malicious vindictive opinions of self acclaimed master of bullshit.


If Watkins is determined to see the evidence then maybe he should be asking Anne Greig and Robert Green to provide it, but then, cowards don't go straight to the source and his main agenda is merely to discredit supporters and beat them down and is an underhanded tactic to gain information to give him something new to write.


As it stands, Watkins has no information or evidence and uses FaceBook supporters comments to fill his nasty blog with because he can't come up with anything new. When reading his postings you just have to scan it over, there is nothing new there, all predictable rantings of a desperate mad man scrapping at the bottom of the barrel for mere scraps you would throw to a mangy dog barking up the wrong tree.

The repetitive insults and accusations are just about laughable and one has to remember that Watkins has never met any supporter or HG herself to validate his accusations. Undermining every supporter and labelling them the 'lynch mob' and the 'braying mob' where there is no evidence of this and the derogatory insults are used at every opportunity as is his running commentary on certain individuals that he has no knowledge of and so his rantings are based on his opinions and assumptions and with "no admissible substantive evidence". Watkins fails in the intellect department which obviously originates from the very depth of a toilet bowl.

Perhaps a slot on the children's program Jackanory would be more suited to Watkins with his childish rantings and a knack for 'story' telling rather than the grown up world of adults where he fails to get his ten minutes of fame.

Word Manipulation Designed To Intimidate

Word manipulation designed to intimidate and undermine someone is a tactic used on a regular basis by Greg Lance-Watkins used in the hope of overpowering anyone who does not agree with his opinion or agenda.

The tactics of deceit, manipulation and control are a steady diet for covert-aggressive personality, it's the only way Watkins can deal with others in a situation he has no control over. His everyday over usage of exaggerated words is to simply distract, confuse and intimidate you into thinking that he is highly intellectual.

One can only assume that a thesaurus is being used as he searches for words that are manipulative, intimidating but infrequently used in every day language but they fall short of their task as his spelling and grammar are on the level of a 10yr old and yet he berates anyone who dares make the same mistake which is highly hypocritical and laughable considering that Blogger has a spellchecker which he fails to use.

Watkins aggression was not obvious in the beginning and seemed genuinely supportive of HG until he decided that there was no admissible evidence based on his opinion and became a doctor overnight to diagnose Anne Greig with Munchhausen by proxy and with severe mental health issues. Your gut may tell you that he's fighting for something as he struggles to overcome supporters of HG and gain power, to have his way, and you find yourselves unconsciously on the defensive. But because he can't point to clear, objective evidence he is aggressing against you.

The tactics he uses, insults, personal attacks, verbal abuse, slander, mocking are merely ploys to intimidate, manipulate and overpower you into submission making them highly effective psychological weapons to which anyone can be vulnerable. When engaging in this tactic, he actively ignores the warnings, pleas or wishes of others, and in general, refuses to pay attention to everything and anything that might distract him. He's an expert at knowing how to change the subject, dodge the issue or in some way throws a curve. It's merely a distraction and a diversion technique to keep the focus off his behavior, move you off-track, and keep himself free to promote his self-serving hidden agendas.

Watkins technique of using sarcasm and put-downs as a means of increasing fear and self-doubt in others is an every day occurrence and has become an obsession. Covert-aggressor's use this tactic to make others feel inadequate or unworthy, and therefore, defer to them. It's an effective way to foster a continued sense of personal inadequacy in the weaker party, thereby allowing an aggressor to maintain a position of dominance.

Vilifying the victim is another tactic he frequently uses in conjunction with the tactic of playing the victim role. He tried to use this tactic to make it appear he is only responding (i.e. defending himself against) aggression on the part of the victim to gain sympathy and evoke compassion. One thing that covert-aggressive personalities count on is the fact that less calloused and less hostile personalities usually can't stand to see anyone suffering. Therefore, the tactic is simple. Convince your victim you're suffering in some way, and they'll try to relieve your distress. But on this occasion, this tactic backfired.

All this adds up to is a feeble attempt to discredit and create chaos, divide HG supporters causing suspicion and deliberate anarchy, another well known tactic of a shill. For all his outlandish comments and accusations that supporters are abusers, paedophiles and liars, it is Watkins himself who has a criminal record for firearms possession and an abuser of the highest standard. He has proven time and time again to be the liar and the instigator who thinks nothing of betraying anyone he comes into contact with and uses for his own selfish means and sick fantasies.

Watkins is nothing more than a school yard bully throwing a tantrum, albeit his behaviour is escalating due to the fact that he realises the people he is attacking are much stronger, more capable than he bargained for and regardless of what he throws at them they band together and unite which riles him further as he is fully aware that he has no such support, bar a possible two individuals that are just as untrustworthy, mentally or psychologically impaired as he is.

At the end of the day Watkins is grasping at straws which is clearly evident in the past few weeks which saw him stooping to the lowest level possible. As his accusations escalate and become more bizarre, it will be interesting to see what his next tactic or his next victim, will be.

The Shill List Working Against Supporters

There are certain individuals who would have you believe that the vast majority of people do not believe the 'stories' of HG childhood abuse and that the people who support this cause are nothing more than abusers, paedophiles and liars.

We are all entitled to our own opinion, we have the right to express that opinion regardless if one disagrees.

Justice decided to compile a list of people actively and deliberately working against HG and her supporters, these people are also known as 'shills' that set out to discriminate, slander and verbally attack in the hope to cause disarray and doubt. After spending five hours going through files and online searching, there is now a complete list of active shills.


GREG LANCE-WATKINS - No surprises here then. His daily onslaught of abuse is wearing rather thin these days with his constant drone dalek like fashion. In desperate attempts to discredit everyone, he has resorted to trawling the internet looking for anyone that says anything positive and uses it to fill his blog with more droning and drivel. These ghastly attempts to keep this charade going are becoming more bizarre every day and more laughable than threatening. Watkins is entitled to disbelieve, but why set out to discredit and attack those who choose to believe? Is it merely for the fact that Anne Greig kicked him off the case and he went into a strop? Or is it because he really was a low life to begin with and has proven to be a liar time and time again making himself look foolish and desperate?

Watkins proved to be nothing more than a liar and hypocrite when his attempt to discredit individuals and accuse them of breaking confidentiality when he thinks nothing of doing so himself by publishing names without authorization of the people who were in his 'circle' and by all accounts there are only two. The publishing of emails which he edits to see fit is also a breach of confidentiality, unless the author of said emails gives permission to publish and unedited. He was also solely responsible for publishing the names of the paedophile ring and the victims but he claims it was at the insistence of Robert Green and Anne Greig. If Watkins had serious doubt about publishing the list then he should have refused to do so. But he made the choice and went ahead and breached confidentiality.


TOM GEORGE - Not so much as a shill online but recent offline activity revealed his behaviour and ongoing attempts to discredit the campaign. After stepping away in June, he would have you believe he wanted nothing more to do with it and would make no further comments. The last two weeks have shown this not to be true as he turns up like the proverbial bad penny. For all his pleading innocence it would seem, like Watkins, his name pops up whenever trouble rears its ugly head.

It would also seem he has more names than the seven dwarfs, and yet Watkins defends him for doing so and at the same time berates someone else for using a fake ID.

Tom George also thinks nothing of passing emails to others in his 'circle', edited and watered down versions like Watkins, breaching confidentiality. Again, pot.....kettle......black spring to mind. He may have been a victim of an attack about twenty years ago, which by all accounts left him severely brain damaged according to Watkins. If this was the case, then why was he involved in such a sensitive case that required intellect and trust? Did he fool Robert Green and Anne Greig that he was the man for the job which entailed writing to authorities and MP's demanding a new enquiry into Hollie's abuse. Or was he using Hollie's case in the hope to highlight his own failing one?

Watkins and George are like two peas in a pod and their sole intention is to undermine Hollie Greig, Anne Greig, Robert Green and supporters. One has to wonder if in fact Hollie never got a new enquiry because of their involvement given their track record of failure.


As you can see, this is the entire list of shills which is laughable when Watkins will inform anyone who will dare to listen to him that there is an endless list of people actively involved in discrediting the campaign. Granted, there may be many who do not believe which is their right but the amount of people who do believe overshadows this.

Justice's conclusion is that Watkins resides in a bubble filled with hot air and nothing much else. His intellect is zero minus, his credibility non existent and his track record for lying is notorious.

If these two are all HG and supporters have to worry about, then they can sleep easy.

As always, Justice gives you the opportunity to add anything of value and importance to this article. If you have evidence of shills you can leave them in the comment box.

The Weakest Link Greg Lance-Watkins

Quote: No one can say Hollie has Never been abused - Greg Lance-Watkins
23rd October 2010

Incredible as it seems the above quote was indeed made by Watkins today on his blog where he also claims to be the 'Messenger' when clearly Anne Greig quite rightly removed him from the case. So who exactly is he delivering the message for?

Once again Watkins finds the need to copy and paste a comment from YouTube from someone showing a little support and dissects it in his usual abusive manner with his opinions and slanderous remarks and insults.

Quote: To have been named as a paedophile without one shred of evidence of even a possibility of that which is sustainable is an obscene crime to be accused of. - Greg Lance-Watkins.

Pot.... kettle...... black spring to mind in this instance as he publicly accuses HG supporters of being paedophiles, abusers, liars, slime, stupid and the list goes on without any evidence to back up his claims and without having any contact with most of the people he accuses and so it is only his opinion and does not validate his claims.

His continual abuse against the HG supporters is nothing more than a personal vendetta, often refering to them as the 'lynch mob'. There is no evidence to support this claim in the slightest. If Watkins is refering to the angry outbursts due to his slanderous insults and deliberate goading on a daily basis, then I think the correct definition of their actions would be 'self defence'.

If this lynch mob were that hateful then maybe Watkins would like to explain why that whenever he decides to attack another individual for merely clicking a 'like' button and calling them an abuser for doing so, that many people will come to that individuals side to support them, show solidarity and defend them yet not on any occassion has one person come to the aide of Watkins in his defence.

In his daily rants on Stolen Kids which is becoming more bizzare by the day, he demands supporters to show the evidence to justify their support for HG. As they are a support group, they would not be privvy to such information as Watkins is well aware. If indeed Robert Green and Anne Greig have further evidence, it is hardly likely they would put this in the public domain and run the risk of jeopardizing the possibility of a new enquiry.


As Watkins fails to understand the support HG has, it shows his lack of human compassion. It would be safe to say that the half of these people are infact victims and survivors of abuse and have first hand experience and knowledge as to how the system can be used and twisted to cover up crimes and protect paedophiles. They also know that medical evidence is not always sufficient or available. Medical evidence alone does not make a case, if this were true then victims who disclose abuse in later years and decide to bring criminal charges against their abuser would have no medical evidence to support this. However, statistics show that over the years many cases have been won without medical evidence. They are also aware that compensation is awarded to victims even without an arrest or conviction against their abuser. This would indicate that although there is not sufficient evidence for an arrest, it does not suggest that abuse did not occur, it signals that indeed abuse has taken place but the evidence is lacking for a conviction which is often the outcome in many cases and so compensation is awarded.

Supporters can empathise with HG and Anne Greig because they have experienced if not the same treatment but very close to it. There are supporters who know someone that has been abused and have witnessed the effects victims suffer and there are those who support merely for the fact that paedophiles are committing horrendous abuse but are protected by the system when this protection is very much lacking for the victim.

Supporters do not have to justify their beliefs and reasons to Greg Lance-Watkins it is not a legal requirement to disclose such justification and Watkins certainly doesn't have any authority in demanding evidence to validate their support for HG.


There is only one reason they show support, they believe Hollie Greig.

NEXT POST: The shocking shill list working against HG and supporters.

The Evidence Has Been Provided

Greg Lance Watkins believes himself to be a seeker of truth and has adopted a daily mantra: "Evidence, Evidence, Evidence", which is repeated over and over in a drone like fashion.

If evidence is Watkins priority, why does he fail to provide evidence against the people he has accused of defamation, becoming/are abusers, death threats, and a very long list of other accusations?

His daily rantings are based on nothing more than his opinion which is not evidence.

Justice Will Be Served can now provide the evidence that HG was sexually abused as a child


As this evidence contains many many pages, a direct link to the information will open in a new window.


The Hollie Greig Story - 20th July 2009 "In the summer of 2000, Hollie told her mother, Anne, that she had been repeatedly sexually abused by her father, Denis Charles Mackie and brother Greg. The abuse had begun when Hollie was just six years` old. Hollie said that Greg had also been abused by his father."

Aberdeen Paedophile Rape Ring Named At Public Meeting - 23th November 2009 "I will continue to pursue Ms Angiolini, Buchanan and others involved in this blatant Scottish Government and Crown Office cover up and conspiracy to defeat the ends of justice until the truth and justice prevails and justice is done ... and is seen to be done."

Paedophile Fiends In FerryHill - 30th December 2009 "I understand that this written warning has been circulating widely in Ferryhill and Aberdeen at large!"

Truthful Witness & Innocent Victim - 22nd April 2009 “Officers who have dealt with Hollie have taken the view she was a truthful witness to the best of her ability and an entirely innocent victim."

The Cover Up Begins - 13 March 2010 Hollie Greig & How it all came to light

Compensation - 17th November 2009 "It has been clearly stated by the authorities that Hollie Greig is an entirely credible and valid witness, a fact upheld and substantiated by the payment of 'Official Compensation'."


As you can see the evidence comes from Watkins himself, on his blog, posted by him and no other person which means he is solely responsible and held accountable for the content.

What this evidence above also means is fairly quite straightforward in that it clears everyone Watkins accused of publishing the names of the accused paedophiles and the named victims. It would appear that Mr Thomas George et al, was responsible for this disclosure, dated 23rd November 2009. Any mention of the Aberdeen paedophile ring before hand can not be found at this time, but if anyone can provide proof that it was, Justice will only be to happy to view the evidence and adjust this article accordingly.

Watkins has continued to claim that he published the names at the insistence of Robert Green and Anne Greig, trying to remove all accountability from himself. The sad fact remains, Stolen Kids is his blog, he published the material, which makes him solely accountable.

You will also note that Watkins has also amended the posts above after he was removed from the case by Anne Greig, at which point his vendetta truly began against anyone supporting HG and an onslaught of abuse to those who dare disagree with him.

It is only right to point out also that the people who support HG in her fight for justice on FaceBook groups, were not aware of HG until January 2010.

Justice also duly notes that Watkins has now changed the Stolen Kids signature from Hollie to Greg Lance-Watkins.

Justice also duly notes that if Watkins is adamant that HG was never abused, then why does he still tout all the information in his blog?


What They Are Trying To Suppress

Greg Lance Watkins

It would seem that there is no end to the abusive remarks and accusations coming from one Greg Lance Watkins as he takes the final step into the abyss of deceit and perversion in compiling a list of women that he claims are becoming/are abusers without a shred of valid evidence to support his claims.

This is nothing unusual for Watkins, as he also published on his blog a list of 'accused' paedophiles and also publishing the list of victims without their consent. After being removed from the Hollie Greig campaign by Ann Greig several months ago, Watkins as we all know, has set out to discredit anyone who believes that HG was abused as a child.

He claims that anyone can call him and discuss openly the if, buts and maybes of HG's case but it has become perfectly apparent that unless you agree with his views on the case, he does not want to listen and will then try to control the discussion with constant interruption and talking over the caller. He then uses these calls to discredit and slander the caller on his blog, but it will be his version of events that you will only read as he will not allow other people to comment on his blog in fear of what they will say.

His continual obsession with the people who support HG has stooped to an all time low as he openly attacks woman and accusing them of being abusers without any evidence, something that Watkins uses as his mantra, evidence, evidence, evidence and yet he contradicts himself and becomes the hypocrite when he publishes names without his own evidence as proof.

The woman that he writes about are known campaigners who fight against child sex abuse and expose paedophiles with demonstrations, petitions, support groups for victims and stand up against people like Watkins. The majority of the women are either victims, survivors, or know someone who has been abused. His blog today has named a woman who have never commented on HG's case in any group, page or in any email correspondence and yet he has accused her of becoming an abuser.

Watkins has also blamed everyone from HG, Facebook and now Youtube and claims no responsibility for his part in this case and that he was made to publish material by Ann Greig and Robert Green. Despite his constant barrage of insults and slanderous remarks and making it perfectly clear he does not believe HG was ever abused and that her Mother has a severe mental condition, he still displays on his blog all the information pertaining to Hollie when he 'believed' the information to be true and still using her name to sign his blog.

Ad hominem abuse:

Ad hominem abuse (also called personal abuse or personal attacks) usually involves insulting or belittling one's opponent in order to invalidate his or her argument, but can also involve pointing out factual but ostensible character flaws or actions which are irrelevant to the opponent's argument.

Character assassination:

Character assassination is an attempt to tarnish a person's reputation. It may involve exaggeration or manipulation of facts to present an untrue picture of the targeted person. It is a form of defamation and can be a form of ad hominem argument.

Cyber abuse or cyber bullying:

Cyberbullying "involves the use of information and communication technologies to support deliberate, repeated, and hostile behavior by an individual, that is intended to harm others.

Defamation:

Defamation is the communication of a statement that makes a claim, expressly stated or implied to be factual, that may give an individual a negative image.

The fact is, Watkins is the abuser and you only have to read his blog for the proof. His foul rantings are stomach churning to say the least as he makes personal remarks and insulting accusations against people he has never met personally. He thinks nothing of assassinating their character without evidence, he attacks abuse victims and survivors for his own sick entertainment, he belittles anyone who uses any other name bar their own, and yet defends another abuser for doing the exact same thing, he mocks people for their grammar and spelling and yet his blog is riddled with such mistakes. He 'befriends' people for information and then outs them publicly and takes no responsibility and truly believes that what he is doing is honest.

Watkins is delusional to say the least, in his own sick fantasy world he believes his own lies.

Greg Lance Watkins - provide proof of your claims, this proof does not include your personal opinion of the people you attack. Opinion is not evidence of proof. Written proof is acceptable, signed and dated. Claims made on assumptions is not acceptable proof.